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's foremost gun lobbyists. >> the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. and i would expect that they've been impacted by this as well. and hopefully they'll do some self-reflection. >> indeed. self-reflection is something joe biden's recommended as well. confronted by a particularly zealous gun advocate during the youtube presidential debate in 2011. >> tell me your position on gun control as myself and other americans really want to know if our babies are safe. this is my baby. purchased under the 1994 gun ban. >> i tell you what, if that's his baby. he needs help. i think he just made an admission against self-interest. i don't know that he's mentally qualified to own that gun. >> the vice president went on to deliver an em passioned defense of gun control to keep citizens safe from lethal weapons falling into the wrong hands. scripting the federal assault weapons ban. all of which earned mr. biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with
was your response on to the nra news conference that we saw just yesterday? >> well, richard, i thought it was stunningly insense i hativet is how i felt. the idea that the only approach to gun violence is gun fights is just not the way this country should, i think see itself. i know most americans don't see the wild, wild with west returning to the united states. but that is what they suggested. and the idea that they were making meaningful -- meaningful contributions, the only meaningful contribution i saw was to the gun manufacturers by way of free advertising. you know, they do what they have been doing a long time. that is come up with every excuse, except looking at the incredible saturation of guns in the society. and i saw statistics today of the 62 mass murders in the united states over the last 30 years, not one of them has been stopped by an armed civilian. and in columbine, there were two armed individuals that tried to stop it and couldn't. so, their answer has never been the answer and it's not the answer now. >> you are one of the few that is willing to make the ultimate
association's proposal in response to last week's deadly attack in nu oun. the nra says more schools should have guards armed with guns of their own. nbc justice correspondent pete williams says s in washington for more on this. can you break down the nra's solution? >> the nra says the answer to combating school violence is simple. it says banks, power plarngts congress, and the president are protected with armed security and the nation's schools should be guarded that way, too. after a week of calls for tighter gun restrictions and signs of a possible shift in public attitudes, about access to the weapons like the rifle used in connecticut, the national rifle association instead called for putting more armed security officers in the nation's schools. the. >> the onlying that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> reporter: the nra's wayne la pierre says children in most schools are defenseless because the schools proclaim to be places without guns. >> they tell every insane killer in america that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk. >>
the power on the congress and senate. you have the power of the nra but on the ground so many millions of people are advocating for gun control. so i think at this point, you need to -- when you think about the strategic coalitions that make people power recognize that the nra's not omnipotent, it may behave like god, but actually, it's not. also what we need in schools, more detectives in schools in new york, in urban areas, that's exactly what you have. and what you have is criminalization of young people. particularly people of color. when you think of a piece like mother jones that takes you over 60 years, most of the guns are illegal. >> that's clearly what we have in this case. >> that's what we have, the guns were legal. so what we never want to do is go to where the power and profit sits. so what we do, we talk about we need this for children. and we need to deal -- we need to criminalize the mental health which is what we will do, but what we don't do is treat the issue. >> also, we have a security mind-set, understandably, right? exactly. the impulse of apocalypse for securit
to help make sure that nothing like sandy hook ever happens again. it seems like a big deal that the nra did that, right? they never really say things like that after there are shootings, after mass shootings. they never, for example, call press conferences. it's not how they usually handle it. would this actually be a new and different message from the nra? was the nra prepared to change, sing a different tune? at the press conferences this morning, they were still teeing us up, right? we were ready to hear new never before ground from the nra. the nation tuned in expectantly. what would happen? >> at the end of this conference, we will not be taking questions, but next week we will be available to any of you who are interested in talking about these or other issues of interest to you. so contact us, please, at this point. thank you very much. wayne? >> good morning. the national rifle association, four million mothers, fathers, sons and daughters joined the nation in -- ♪ >> same old thing. it's going to be stuck in my head forever. they rick rolled us. the nra rick rolled the whole
press conferences in recent memory. with nra's chief wayne lapierre giving what felt less than a news conference and more than a 30 minute case for ending gun violence with more guns. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. and to do it now. to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in january. >> oh, boy. this news conference monolog was interrupted not once but twice by protesters who wrote this on sheets. >> nra scope killing our children. it's the nra and the assault weapons that are killing our children. not armed teachers. we got to end the violence. we got to stop the killing. >> so the ceo of the nation's largest gun lobby echoed the old refrain guns don't kill people, people kill people. seven days after newtown, lapierre called for armed police in every school and a national mental health registry. that's right. register people who have mental health problems
>>> plus the nra's double down. the organization's ceo says if it's crazy to arm police in school, then call him crazy. >> i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment instrument in this town. >>> but first eight days until the fiscal cliff deadlines, through the has of congress not a creature is stirring, not even a lawmakers. hopes of a deal are fading. before taking off, the president urged congress that pass a scaled-back stop-gap measure. >> senators agreed on sunday to pass -- >> i think unfortunately there will only be a small deal. >> it is going to be a patch. >> kristin welker, traveling with the president in honolulu. the question is will he be cutting hi vacation short? does he have a royal to play? or is it up to the senate, as some are saying? >> reporter: first of all, i think it is likely we'll see him cut his vacation short. senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell will have to work together. a lot of focus shifts to mcdonnell. he has to try t
in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> the head of the nra speaks out exclusively to nbc news intensifying the emotionally charged debate on gun control. it's monday, december 24th. welcome to this special edition of "m schsnb"msnbc." as for president obama and john boehner, they are miles apart. neither are them talking about the deal the country really needs. kristin, we were talking yesterday that there's a possibility the president was considering coming back early perhaps thshould they strike a deal of some sort. >> i think it's likely president obama will cut his vacation short. we haven't gotten guidance about when that is going to happen. the white house is calling this a working vacation, but the reality is that talks are largely deadlocked over the fiscal cliff. there have been a few conversations going on at the staff level but really the expectation is that the hard work is going to get done when lawmakers return to washington after the christmas holiday, a little bit later on this week. that's when they're going to resume negotiations in earnest. of co
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of the first nra supporter who is came out earlier this week and said that something needed to change. he is now saying i am not supporting a ban on anything. i am supporting a conversation on everything. he went on to say i can't say yes or no to any of these things. senator praised at the beginning of the week and at this point saying i am not supporting a ban on anything and said he was proud of the nra for offering to have a statement here on friday. is this what you talk about when you refer to the politics of gun control in this country. this gamesmanship as it seems? >> sure. gamesmanship is part of the political process. it teams to me that the senator is holding his cards close to his vest. he doesn't want to be in a position to say yes, he support this is or opposes that. there is no good reason for him to offer policy matters until vice president biden's commission delivered the report and we have a series of concrete proposals that are off to the congress shortly after they convene at the start of january. >> the senator said no hunter needs an assault rifle. the people said h
feinstein to fire back at the nra. >> there were two armed lauchl officers who twice engaged the shooters at columbine. that didn't prevent 15 from being killed and 23 wounded. >> joining me now, congressman, an accidental shooting left him confined to a wheelchair since he was 16 and congressman, you were with us last week and thanks for coming back. >> thank you, richard, for having me on the program. >> so you saw what lapierre said. what do you think about his plan itself and we'll put it aside for a second and what's the sentiment and the mood that he portrayed. what was your reaction to it? >> first of all, my thoughts and prayers are still with the families of newton connecticut who lost loved ones especially the children in that horrible, horrible attack. my heartbreaks for those families and what they're going through and they're in my thoughts and prayeris and know they're in the thoughts and prayers of people around the nation. with respect to the nra and the position that they have come out with, i have to say that i am personally, absolutely disgusted by the position of the n
of the nra. it's the same line we've heard before from the nra, but has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown? and what we saw last night from house republicans is yet another symptom of the real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise. and they've lurched too far to the right. we begin with where things stand on the fiscal cliff, msnbc political analyst and msnbc contributor jared bernstein. jentle men, president obama tonight said he had spoken with speaker boehner in addition to senate majority leader harry reed. >> i just spoke to speaker boehner and i also met with senator reed. in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for two million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> jared, is this actually a setback for the president in so far as the embarrassed speaker with someone at least with whom he was dealing? and now, the president really doesn't have a negotiation par
, take note, sandy hook put a face on unlimited gun rights and an nra run amok. it's time to stop being afraid of the nra. time to stop changing the subject when guns are brought up. you, democratic politicians, can run on common sense gun restrictions, and you can win. for the first time in decades, there is now a political price to be paid for gun extremism, and i have got an idea for your first commercial. did you happen to see wayne lapierre on "meet the press"? that does it for us on "the cycle." karen finney is in the chair for martin bashir and it is all yours. >> thanks, krystal. good afternoon. i'm karen finney in for martin bashir on this thursday, december 27th. the president is back in washington, the senate is working against the clock, and speaker boehner, yeah, he's m.i.a. >> no new negotiations are scheduled. >> congress has five days to strike a deal before the end of the year deadline. >> they're calling it the fiscal cliff. [ speaking foreign language ] >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial foo
's the one thing that would keep people safe. the nra would try to do that. there monsters out there every day and we need to do something to stop it. a gun is a tool. the problem is the criminal. >> that's the best, i guess, of nr a's ceo. after the press conference friday, he had another strike out on "meet the press." a house democrat is backing a package that pushes background checks on gun buyers and those on the terrorist watch list. from buying and owning guns. yeah. right now that is actually legal. in addition, the bill would require gun owners to report lost or stolen weapons and make it harder to carry permits. do you notice what's missing from the list? armed guards at the school. with matt miller, we will talk about all of this. matt, republican pollster was on cbs talking about wayne la pierre and i want to listen to the comments and get your take. >> i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think that they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. not every gun should be av
. it's the one thing that would keep people safe. >> that's the nra ceo on "meet the press" yesterday doubling down on the call to arm our nation's schools and puts him at odds of most americans according to 49% saying it's more important to control gun ownership. 42% favor protecting 2nd amendment rights. i want to bring in shannon watts. as many people watched on friday, not only we saw the first reaction in the press briefing that wane lappeire and pressed and wayne is blaming everything but guns and opposed to any new gun regulation and wants to talk about the other possibilities of video games to hollywood to the media to actually arming schools. is this a point of a pr crisis for the nra, especially logically not to have guns in the discussion at all? >> well, unfortunately, i think they know exactly what they're doing. and at the end of the day what they're doing is trying to make a profit and arm everyone in the country and, you know, 80 million moms are not going to let 4 million members of the nra drive the discussion on this. you talk about waking a sleeping giant. i believ
-capacity magazines. we heard from joe manchin and joe warner, both with a-ratings with the nra. to ruth's point, chris, is there a chance that republicans could help to move them as well? >> well, i think so. i think we have seen that on the fiscal cliff issue. and the feeling here at the capitol, i've put the question to them and said, if gabby giffords, a congresswoman one of your own was almost fatally shot, and congress didn't react on gun control, what has to happen after this new event? this has changed the tenor. i was talking to a democratic leadership aide to made that point and also made the point when you have harry reid, if you remember in 2010, a tough re-election. the nra king just short of stopping him saying he was a friend of the second amendment. you have joe manchin and now mark warner. those are moderate democrats. they help bring republicans on board. maybe we would see movement. >> i want to bring in congressman yarmouth. >> good morning, chris. >> yesterday, you apologized for being silent on the issue for the last six years. what specifically do you think can get done no
assault weapons. the reverend says he will organize a protest against nra and gun manufacturers in washington next month. meanwhile, public opinion remains mixed. a new "usa today"/gallup poll has, but when it comes to banning assault weapons, 51% are against it, numbers are relatively unchanged from a year ago. reverend al sharpton joins me in studio. great to see you. we have a copy of the paper, as we look at the efforts, what is the strategy to try to curb the gun violence, especially when you team up with commissioner kelly. people may say here's two big city slickers trying to take the guns out of our hands. >> first of all, commissioner kelly and i have agreed. we. so what we wanted to show on christmas day, he came out to the national action network feeds the homeless and seniors and we stood together and said despite or differences, we agree on banning assault weapons, and we agree that there must be gun control, hoping to use that as a model, saying that there must be bipartisan agreement about gun control in washington. if we can get unlikely people to stand together,
a short-term deal under the tree? plus, the nra not backing off its so-called solution to school gun violence. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed securing our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> that's the wrong debate to have if you want to talk about protecting our children. >> but, first, don't go looking up the chimney for a deal on the fiscal cliff. there are just eight days, that's it, until the deadline to reach a deal, and there was little progress as lawmakers left town for the holiday. before the president took off for his hawaiian vacation with his family on friday, he pressured kfshs to pass a smaller deal, to delay those automatic spending cuts and to extend tax cuts for all except for the wealthiest of americans. now, while senators on both sides of the aisle, they spoke in support of at least a smaller deal on sunday. joe lieberman seemed to have less hope. >> it's the first time that i feel that it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not, and that if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential
, namely sony, call and say whatever i can do to help, i will help. i've had a member of the nra from the central valley of california call me and say i have an ar15, which is a sister weapon to this bushmaster, which your reporter said was common. i don't believe it's common at all. it's a weapon of war. it's designed for military use. it's a civilian version of the m-16. it's a killer weapon. you have no chance against that weapon, so i profoundly disagree that all of these weapons are so usual, and we intend to introduce a bill, and i intend one way or another, month matter how long it takes, to get that bill through. there's one thing i'm sure of. in the suicide bombancy of doing something that is sound, that is practicalable, that is workable, these incidents are not going to stop. i've watched them now since the texas belltower in 1967. >> mike bloomberg just said at a briefing at city hall in new york that if the president had acted after he said he was going to act after tucson, if something had happened, we would have saved thousands and thousands of lives, that so many peopl
with misinformation and dishonest thinking. >> and the nra breaks its silence for the first time since the massacre in newtown, connecticut. and blasts the media for glorifying violence. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone, the factor begins right now. >> hi, everyone, i'm laura ingraham in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. just days before christmas. we begin with the best possible news. 27-year-old corporal john hammar, a former marine, who has been locked up in a mexican prison on a trumped up charge since august looking forward to spending christmas as a free man. a mexican judge ordered his release this morning after the factor launched a campaign for justifiable. hammar was arrested in matamoros mexico. he was following directions by declaring the gun to it mexican authorities. bill o'reilly who has been aggressively pursuing justifiable for this young marine joins us now by telephone and bill this was great news. i knew you would want to come on to discuss it given your role and making sure everyone knew about this and the pressure was on. what's your reaction?
been associated with the nra and indicated their new openness to gun laws have not been the house republicans who would have to vote on a measure. i think it continues to be a very tough task in washington to get federal legislation through the house, that the president could sign on, and not impossible, but i just don't see the kind of movement and outrage that we have seen elsewhere reflected in that important body. now, we do have the nra having a press conference on friday, promising to propose measures. that could be very significant, if they did something, some significant movement that might encourage republican legislators to move on this as well. i think it is a tough battle and that's one reason the white house has been pretty gingerly -- moved gingerly in laying out exactly what it is the president is willing to do. >> lynn, as you know, jay carney said yesterday the president would actively support dianne feinstein's deal to ban assault weapons. he also used the phrase 16 times. how do you balance issues like this? you have the fiscal cliff, you have the new cabinet, t
correct and partially wrong. it looks like the nra's proposal is a lot like exactly what happened after 9/11. immediately though grabbed any federal agent they could to throw them on the planes and later on they put together a really poorly implemented program to arm pilots. and not very many volunteered for the program. i can see the reality. look. he is right in some regard. if someone shows up at a school and there is an armed principal and armed guard clearly that is not going to happen it's unseasonable for starters. it is impractical. let alone the safety implications that come out of all of this. did it work in the skies though? >> well, could argue that it is working because there hasn't been an incident but it looks like every time an american aircraft that gets hijacked there hasn't been any air marshals or both planes that have in iad's on board most of them didn't have armed marshals on them and i don't think there were any armed pilots on them either. so, the air marshall program alone is a billion-dollar program. and the armed pilots program is a lot of the pilots believe it
silence today following the newtown tragedy. the executive vice president of the n.r.a., wayne laperriere, said that schools would be safer if they were protected with guns. here's chip reid. >> reporter: wayne laperriere gave no ground to gun control advocates who want to ban assault weapons and magazines that hold more than ten rounds. instead, he shifted the focus to the n.r.a.'s plan for securing the nation's schools. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. what if when adam lanza started shooting his way into sandy hook elementary school last friday he'd been confronted by qualified armed security? i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> reporter: he lashed out at the entertainment industry for its violent movies and video games. >> isn't fantasizing about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography? >> reporter: he blamed the federal government for failing to create a national database of the mental
a rating of "a" with the nra. >> everything has to be on the table and i think it will be. when you look at it, if dianne is saying assault weapons, i don't know anyone in the sporting or hunting arena that goes out with an assault rifle. i don't know anybody that needs 30 rounds in a clip to go hunting. >> does that sound to you like the beginning of some sort of change? because david gregory said that they reached out to all 31 pro-gun senators, none of them would come on the program. what chance does some kind of bill have? >> well, i think both the president's signal that he would do everything in his power was pretty striking and also the fact that you heard very little until today from the gun rights lobby signals both that this is going to be a political fight but it may not be as big of a political fight as it was or would have been after some of these others. i think the fact that innocent children were involved, were the victims here, really may have opened the nation's eyes to the need for some kind of stricter controls on, you know, on like the assault weapons ban. but what y
children being killed. >> we have to make that coalition. we have polled gun owners and nra members and found broad support on things like background checks on all gun sales. the american people who are watching and believe that we deserve better than this and deserve a nation that is better and safer, join us at we are better than this.org. you have to keep talking and engage in the process otherwise, we will have the same conversation the next time a mass shooting happens. we can no longer keep repeating it over and over and the same c conversations, because we have to move forward with that and we have to do it together. >> collin, you were shot in 2007, and the tact that we are here in 2012, does it feel like we have failed you? your fellow survivors and those who did not survive that massacre? >> that is a tough question. i feel good about what i am doing today and the the people i am connecting with with, and the progress in capitol hill and ledgislatures across the kun tc. it has been an overwhelming experience, but it is one that is very rewarding. we are trying to take the
for his record on gun regulation. but he didn't please gun advocates either. the nra gave him an "f" on his most recent report card. those two grades tell you a lot about the state of today's gun control debate. now after the mass murder of children at sandy hook elementary school the president is doing something different. he is taking a louder stand the that might endear him to at least one side of the debate. and next month he plans to introduce a gun control agenda and highlight it during the state of the union. meanwhile, california senator dianne feinstein's planning to introduce a bill had a would ban assault weapons as expected. conservative groups are already taking aim at it. on the drudge report, for example, one headline reads civil war senate to go for handguns. now, we were just talking about conservative rhetoric on a different civil war earlier. let's put war aside. let's put the militant language aside and let's talk about what is happening here, maggie. as you know, people follow this debate remember the original assault weapons ban which was itself considered very
... the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. >> i did not as far as i would like to go. i believe the nra is the new kkk. >> shepard: new far out craziness perpetrated by professional football player. we will cut through the all the madness tonight and tell you what's really going on. >> the recession meant that there was less money coming in and even more. >> bill: new stats say president obama has borrowed more money than all the other presidents combined. there is no relief in sight. charles krauthammer will tell us where the all money is going. also tonight a mother in louisiana puts a nude picture of her teenage daughter on facebook. is it legal on the case? caution, you where to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly, thanks for watching us tonight. america and personal responsibility. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. immediately after belcher killed his girlfriend and shot himself excuses started. trotted out by a variety of pundits. here is the fact. belcher is solely responsible for the horrendous crime which
was, one, that the nra's arguments on self-defense, the need for more gun prosecutions are not credible. and second, that he can't do this on his own. if we're going to have serious change on gun policy, we need to have a national movement akin to the national movement to change public opinion on the iraq war. congress should bring the victims of newtown up to capitol hill who would be willing to call for serious changes in gun policy. i think shows like this show have to focus on the fact we have a new toub that occurs in this country every single day. 30 americans on average are killed every day from handgun violence. i think we need massive protests against irresponsible retailers like walmart who sell assault weapons and make them available to anyone -- pretty much anybody that asks. the question is not whether or not we'll have change. the question is whether or not progressives, independents and fair-minded republicans will form a national based movement that will really expose the need for this. one place we might start is asking congress if they believe in the s
will be putting off. >> the nra says it's just not going to work. it didn't work before. it's not going to work now. >> you know, my response is, something has to work. you know, it is not enough for us to say, this is too hard, so we're not going to try. so what i intend to do is i will call all the stakeholders together. i will meet with the republicans. i will meet with democrats. i will talk to anybody. i think there are a vast majority of responsible gun owners out there who recognize that we can't have a situation in which somebody with severe psychological problems is able to get the kind of high-capacity weapons that this individual in newtown obtained. and gunned down our kids. and yes, it's going to be hard. >> should we have an armed guard at every school in the country? that's what the nra believes, they told me last week, that could work. >> i'm not going to prejudge the recommendations that are given to me. i am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools. and i think the vast majority of the american people are skeptical that that somehow is going to solve our
to say obviously false about the nra. listen to this. >> i swear to you, the nra has this conspiracy floating that obama is a muslim brother hood creature that he's trying to get a third term like he's, i don't know, mayor bloc bloomberg. you better stock up on your guns anyway because he might do it, he just might do it, you just can't not buy a gun. what would jesus buythere's a w. yeah. the people with the guns are waging it. it's very weird. >> very bizarre. i mean, is this -- how do you listen to hours of this vitriol. >> it's torture, but there's a bubble out there. there's a progressive bubble. you go to parts of the bay area or whatever, and this is what they're talking about. this is what they're saying. the rest of american has no idea. they would love to make obama president for life. is there any doubt? >> sean: not in my mind for sure. i think
in the united states. advocates for gun rights have been strikingly quiet in the last 48 hours. the nra said they would have no comment until all the facts are thoroughly known. betsy fisher marten tweeted they tweeted to all senators in the congress to invite them to share views. no takers. texas congressman was pretty much alone on sunday defending the nation's gun law saying the tragedy could have been stopped if sandy hook's principal had access to her own weapon. >> i wish to god she had an m 4 in her office so she pulls it out and she had nothing in her hands. she takes his head off before he could kill those kids. >> meanwhile mayor bloomberg argued the nra is not as powerful as it once was. >> the nr a's number one objective this time was to defeat barack obama for a second term. the last time i checked the election results he won and won comfortably. the myth that they can destroy political careers is not true. >> this is going to be a policy debate and potentially political fight that could dominate in 2013. joe lieberman is calling for a restoration of the assault weapons ban, but
. >> the n.r.a. blasted in the media for call for armed guard in schools, and guess what, his approval rating higher than the president. so why won't they talk about that? we will next. >> a dramatic new video after deadly plane crash, the act moment a huge jet crashes into the highway. >> can you imagine being na driver? >> oh! >> welcome back, the mainstream media mock being the head of the n.r.a., all shoes should have guards, a gallup poll shows 54% of americans have a favorable opinion of the national rifle association. why is the mainstream media so harsh on them? joining us now is a contributor to the daily collar, good morning to you jeff. >> good morning, thanks for having me on. >> i would say so. and it's a little rough on the n.r.a., but if you look at the overall approval rating, they think higher than president obama and higher than the media covering as well. >> dave: maybe the speech from wayne lapierre didn't represent perfectly members of the n.r.a. i know, some weren't happy about maybe the lack of consoling to the victims and maybe some sensible proposal for some sort of
by the n.r.a. if you think about one town in marlboro, new jersey has adopted now what appears to be a program, they've certainly moved quickly on this, going to permit an armed cop in each of the nine schools starting on january 2nd. >> kelly: they actually launched this prior to the n.r.a., something they were putting in place on the heels of what took place at sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut. they wanted to do something, the mayor of that town said we will spare no expense, we must take care of our children and why they're putting armed guards in all of their schools, getting back to what the n.r.a. said, the n.r.a. wayne laperriere said the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a began and began a lot of talk and controversy out there, and how we should be responding. >> alisyn: it's part of the national dialog, whether that is the best deterrent or other ways to handle it. the mayor marlboro is a town i knew where, monmouth counties where i grew up. it's one of the pretty s and you can't believe there'd be an armed guard, bu
at the hospital for test results >> heather: head of the nra on protecting our children in the aftermath of the newtown tragedy. repeating the call for armed and security personnel to be posted at every school in the country. peter doocy has more from washington. >> putting police and armed security in schools is the one thing that will keep people safe according to national rifle association ceo wayne la pierre who argued that you can't legislate morality because legislation only works on the sane and doesn't stop criminals. former republican congressman is leading the effort to convince congress that it's a good idea and said this morning it would be similar to the way that government protects air travelers from terrorists. >> there was intense debate on airplanes, guns have no place. yet we have a federal air marshal program i helped to oversee which provided a deterrent, increased the safety of the airlines and it's not like an armed camp when you go on the airlines. >> reporter: mark warner has an "a" rating but made it clear he disagrees with the idea and he thinks multiple steps m
? that's what the nra believes. they told me last week that could work. >> you know, i'm not going to prejudge the recommendations that are given to me. i am skeptical that the only answer is putting more guns in schools. and i think the vast majority of the american people are skeptical that that somehow is going to solve our problem. and, look, here's the bottom line. we're not going to get this done unless the american people decide it's important. and so this is not going to be simply a matter of me spending political capital. one of the things that you learn having now been in this office for four years is, you know, the old adage of abraham lincoln's that with public opinion there's nothing you can't do. and without public opinion, there's very little you can get done in this town. so i'm going to be putting forward a package, and i'm going to be putting my full weight behind it. and i'm going to be making an argument to the american people about why this is important and why we have to do everything we can to make sure that something like what happened at sandy hook elementa
from texas and the washington post saying i worry the nra has become a captive of the republican party at a time that it needs democratic votes. in the long run it will be weakened. brian ballard in the "wall street journal", a top republican fundraiser in florida, said opposition to certain gun control measures will make our job a lot harder electing middle of the road republicans in the future. i think republicans have to be mindful that just because the nra says something, it doesn't mean it's going to be advantageous to you and sort of the demographic we're speaking to in specific here is mothers across america. women who are swing voters. what is the republican party doing if it wants to win those votes 2014, 2016 and beyond? >> i think it probably ends up doing sort of close to what the democratic party is going to do, which is if you look at the kinds of gun controls that people support, they're not really very effective at stopping these kinds of shootings, right? the assault weapons ban, we had columbine. we had michael corn he'll and a lot of school shootings after that ban b
sometimes with gun owners, even sometimes with nra >> it's not talking about guns far decade not brought any of them back to the democratic fold. they're voting at the same or even increased rates for republicans. and democrats can look at it now and say we can win without them. we can win with the sort of new coalition and introduces a basic element of a political party and decides it's for something, if that becomes gun control, it puts it back on the national agenda, forces it in to the conversation and if that party is in position legislateively and the executive branch to act on it and democrats a couple of cycles from now and got the brady bill and the assaults weapon ban. >> i don't know how anyone can live in this culture we're in now and say that the status quo is acceptable and that's a mass killing a week and the price of freedom in america means that thousands of people, thousands of children blown away all the time and since when does americans say, oh well, we can't do anything and fix this problem? that's not american right there. i don't want to take away your guns in new ham
on nbc. back to bob costas, he was quoting a newspaper comyu newspt who compared the nra to the new kkk. so much racial rhetoric, it has to be condemned. where are the voices. >> this is the same as susan rice. it's a war on women, and it's the republican party that's racist. let me play another nbc cut, niger, and get you to respond. they said this is no country for young black men. watch this. >> another 17-year-old african-american boy shot and killed. the alleged assailant, an older white man that said he felt threatened although the boy he's accused of shooting was reportedly unarmed. another claim of self defense to justify the killing. another pair of gravin grave grg parents. a sense that this is no country for young black men but always this, one thing has been the same. no presumption of innocence for young black men. no benefit of the doubt. guilt, but presumed to be inherent in their very become. they need not wield to have a weapon to pose a threat. if you are a young bla black ma, you are threat enough. >> your blan young blan black me threat enough. >> it's outrageous, di
of the remarks he made about the nra and the kkk i'm not sure the time line whether they postdated or predated. obviously i would disagree with them a hundred percent. >> i get it. mild scolding compared to what i have received over the last 72 hours. >> bill: as long as you call a christmas tree a christmas tree you are okay here. >> merry christmas to you too, bill. >> bill: there you go. let's advance the story a little bit. gun control in america is an emotional issue because it's clear that the founding fathers gave the right to bear arms for two reasons. two reasons. number one, because they felt that the government might devolve into tyranny and the second thing was the founding fathers knew they had to settle this giant country and there weren't going to be laws out in the west and people didn't have guns to protect themselves from bears and any native americans that didn't like them coming on their property. so there is a history here. most people don't even understand that history. so, americans grow up with the right to protect themselves against the government and against bad peopl
congressman steny hoyer says the n.r.a. misfired. >> i cannot believe those remarks represent anywhere near a significant portion of america. i don't believe, frankly, that they represent necessarily the majority views of responsible members of the national rifle association who want guns to hunt, want guns to protect their home and their house, and yes, our children. >> reporter: i'm getting lots of comments on twitter including this from roger, who says protect the kids, harden the targets. many schools have police presence bad guys will not go where good guys have guns. feel free to weigh in at my page rick leventhal as the debate for guns restrictions. >> kelly: i have a feeling you'll get a lot of feedback. >> reporter: i already am. >> jamie: and the plan to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner is putting the ball in the court of the president and the democrats. and time is running out. will they come up with a solution? steve centanni is following this in washington. >> reporter: yeah, the fiscal cliff may be looming, but both sides have put negotiations on
liberal op-ed writer who trashes the nra and gun owners for warning about what exactly this kind of confiscation scheme that andrew cuomo is spelling out. and you are absolutely right to point out and pair this flotation of this proposal a long with what is coming down the pike on capitol hill. it's not just about confiscation, it's not just about a registration scheme that would demonize and criminal lies behavior of law a i had booing gun owners but it's about the mandatory sale or buy back program that both feinstein and cuomo have been pushing for for a long time. and remember that the reintroduction of the assault weapons ban, quote, unquote, is something that dianne feinstein had in the works in the immediate aftermath of the election even before the newtown massacre occurred. >> you know something, michelle, what really strikes me is it's very interesting, we broke, and rightly so, our presidentings, our politicians, hollywood stars, they all have armed guards protecting them. we protect our money with armed guards. but when anybody mentioned maybe protecting children in o
more than anything else. the nra never gets credit but they teach more is gun safety courses than anybody in the country. my question to you is what would you do if you want to go further than what she wants what are you going to do if somebody god forbid breaks into your house at night? how do you protect your house and your family? >> we didn't preplan this. i'm so glad that you asked that question. >> sean: baseball bat. call police. >> let's look at statistics and i'm going to tell you, if your gun is responsible will kept separate from the ammunition. >> sean: i don't want statistics. >> by the time at 3:00 in the morning you are woken up from rem stage and stumble to get your gun and the ammunition you are already down with the criminal and the weapon in their hands. most gun owners guns are used on them not for their protection. >> sean: so you would do nothing? just be a sitting duck? that is wall i wanted to know? >> sean, i have two hands, two feet, a big mouth to scream with. >> you are going to need a gun. if somebody is coming at you with a gun. >> i don't need a gun.
are for guns -- we had the nra saying that kassandra perkins should have had a gun, should have had a handgun, if she had -- that's a little -- i'm sorry. one thing missing in the equation is that the woman owning a gun so she could save her life from that murderer. that's different from what you're saying here? >> it's something -- armchair quarterbacks is easy to do. we have a problem. the problem was a gentleman made the wrong decision or made a decision that's going to affect not only the young baby's life but families. you know, from my perspective and my view, what he did committed a crime. right and wrong. when somebody talks about, hey, john, you're going down a direction that's a little dangerous, ultimately myself as an educator, when i get up in the morning and have the opportunity to help, it's what i have to do. >> all right. bob, all week -- i want to see what bob has to say after john says that. bob? >> what i want to look at is the bottom line. if you have kids at a camp from the inner city who are learning how to assemble and disassemble a rifle and learning proper safety and
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